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Crescent firearms serial number list
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:23 pm
I have a double barrel shotgun that has: 'American Gun Co. N.Y. Genuine Armory Steel' The Serial #217132.
I understand that American Gun Co is a trade name of Crescent Firearms for H.D. Folsom Stores.
I would like information on the age of this shotgun. Any info would be greatly appreciated.



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Post subject: Re: American Gun Company N.Y.
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The usual date given is 'about 1900' for all the Crescent/Folsom guns. Don't think anyone has access to a serial number list and am not sure the serial numbers really mean anything on these guns. Crescent existed from 1893 to 1930 and their double barrels evolved from damascus sidelocks to hammerless boxlocks, but sidehammer guns were still being made after Savage/Stevens took over Crescent's operation. If you have a hammerless model with fluid steel barrels, it is no older than 1904.


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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:47 am
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hey AHNH , maybe we should get some travel vouchers from Jay and go do our own records searches... could be interesting. then we could go the Callahan route an get rich selling the info.
I know , I know but do you have a better idea?

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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:42 pm
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I don't know about travel vouchers. I'm still waiting for my first monthly check.


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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:53 pm
Hello everyone
New to this fourm and also am looking for some info on a shotgun that my grandfather gave me today.I think that it was made by H.D. folsom.The only marking on this gun are on the left barrel it has :Genuine Armory steel Choked Bored
Just below the left hammer is Queencity
Under the forarm is the #182946
This gun is a sxs 28in.barrels.
Both hammers are exposed
I am sure that there is no value to it but would like to know if there is a wat to have a new stock made for it sence the stock that is on it is broke with several pieces of the stock missing.I dont plan on shooting it I want to get it back looking like new to hang on the wall.
I have been after my grand dad for years and years to get his old guns out and I would clean them up for him. I was very suprised that he gave me this one and he said that he has about 7 more that he is going to bring me
Thanks for any info
Rich


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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:11 pm
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Queen City, made by Crescent for H.D. Folsom for distribution to the Elmira Arms Co of Elmira NY
I don't know of any sources for Crescent Stocks , your best bet would be to take what you do have of the stock and have a wood worker make you one.

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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:44 pm
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Serial Numbers:
290553 receiver
290556 forearm hardware
290556 foreamr wood
Genuine Armory Steel-Choke Bore Barrel
American Gun Co.-New York
I would like as much information about this gun as you can give. Including price.


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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:58 pm
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A possible source for a replacement stock is: www.boydsgunstocks.com. Their website shows stocks for
Crescent hammer and hammerless guns.
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:07 pm
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While no surviving records have been discovered, the late Joe Vorisek through years of study of these guns made at H & D Folsom Arms Co.'s factory in Norwich, Conn., under their American Gun Co., Crescent Fire Arms Co. names, and hundreds of 'trade names' compiled an estimated serial number to year of manufacture table.
Assuming #217132 is a hammerless gun it would be from 1911, or if it is a hammer gun 1909.
The Queen City hammer gun 182946 would be from 1907.
The American Gun Co. hammer gun 290556 or 3 would be from 1913.


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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:47 pm
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Hi, I have a single shot, with hammer, Victor 16 gauge manufactured by the American Gun Company bearing serial number either 439 (or 489) 467 (or 457). Is there any way of finding out how old it is? Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.


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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:47 pm
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I have a double barrel shot gun that has the word Queen City engraved on the left side of the receiver under the hammer. The serial number under the wooden front stock is 281937. this number is also stamped on the receiver. I would just like to know who made it and approx. year it was made. Thanks for your help.


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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:54 pm
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Queen City was a tradename used by Elmira Arms Co., Elmira N.Y.
It could be a Crescent, and if you will click on the link in the post above you'll find lots of information


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